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May 13, 2008 at 9:04 AM
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Phantom
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I was hoping the new version of TSS would allow me to make changes to an article, basically editing small mistakes gone unnoticed in really long works, or new additions, without losing the reviews and comments.
 
May 13, 2008 at 3:45 PM
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Michael
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Being able to correct typos would be nice, but I can't think of a way to allow small edits without also allowing large edits, and we don't really want people rewriting entire articles after they've already been voted on and reviewed.

Another idea: Maybe we can implement some kind of system where members can submit a new version of an article, and then the old article and its reviews are archived and linked to from the new page.

If we want to help our members improve their writing, then it might help to give them a way to follow the advice being given. The way things are now, it's kind of annoying when someone says in a review, "it would have been better if you did this or that," because there's no way to make any changes.
 
May 13, 2008 at 3:56 PM
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Michael
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Oh, by the way, what about editing posts? That was a feature on The Shadow Sun, wasn't it? Or do I remember that "edit" button only because of my mod powers?

(By the way, where are my mod powers? Not that I need to use them yet.)
 
May 13, 2008 at 7:54 PM
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Chaotictheory
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I think you should not be able to change it because you should have looked over your paper before you submitted it and if there are reviews with help full tips use them on the next paper to show that you have listened and have improved.
 
May 13, 2008 at 8:45 PM
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Caleb
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We did consider a revision system a while back, but we couldn't really find a proper way to implement it without removing the possibilities for abuse. I think in order for Michaels idea to work, we would have to limit the time before a revision is submitted, and that would be somewhat of a problem. I'm thinking that two weeks should be lenient enough, since it should give enough time for a large number of readers to give the article the feedback it needs to be improved.

What do you think?
 
May 14, 2008 at 12:16 AM
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Phantom
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Caleb said:
I think you should not be able to change it because you should have looked over your paper before you submitted it and if there are reviews with help full tips use them on the next paper to show that you have listened and have improved.


Or maybe, I just wrote a 10 page A4 story and decided to make all dialogue with a [ i ] tag so it would seem nicer and more professional, instead, somehow over that 10 page story, a couple were missed and now it's not as aesthetic, so I would like to edit it without owing anyone an explanation.

Caleb said:
What do you think?


Honestly, I think that's why portal style websites have -Moderators-...
 
May 14, 2008 at 12:18 AM
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Phantom
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Caleb said:
We did consider a revision system a while back, but we couldn't really find a proper way to implement it without removing the possibilities for abuse. I think in order for Michaels idea to work, we would have to limit the time before a revision is submitted, and that's would be somewhat of a problem. I'm thinking that two weeks should be lenient enough, since it should give enough time for a large number of readers to give the article the feedback it needs to be improved.

What do you think?


Or, just make it impossible to post a submission where the HTML tags are not complete. Newgrounds did it. Because editing on a large scale can be a problem, but just eliminating tiny errors like this before hand would only help.
 
May 14, 2008 at 12:19 AM
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Phantom
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And now...PT has decided to only let me quote someone in a vertical line. Wonderful.
 
May 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM
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Chaotictheory
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lol
 
May 14, 2008 at 9:22 AM
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EpicTeammate
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The day that an edit option is available on this site for articles is the day that I go out, buy a katana, and impale both Caleb and Justin for being idiots. The reason for submitting the article is for opinions on it at that exact time you hit the submit button in the space-time-continuum. There are no second chances, no re-dos, no nothing. If you feel like you could have improved upon the article, submit a revised version of it for hopefully better reception than the first horrible edition.

Since just about everyone wants to get a good rank on this site, since it is the greatest site in the entirety of the Internet, everyone is out to please everyone. Therefore, when Person A would mark down Person B's article for X problem, what would stop Person B from going in, and just erasing that simple problem? That would make Person A look like a total idiot, which would greatly amuse me, though it would be completely ineffective, because when one person knocks out something from the article, they will probably end up erasing everything but the letter Q from it, because no one can be angered by the letter Q, it is the perfect letter.

So if you want to edit you work, its called a word processor, not papertank. The reason you are given the ability to preview your article before submitting it is so that you can look it over for problems before looking like an idiot, which by judging the starter of this forum post, and those advocates that agree with editing articles, shouldn't even be submitting works in the first place. Think of this as an essay for school. You don't get to hand in a second essay just because you are a failure of a writer, unless your teacher is a complete pussy and pushover, so you have to get it right the first time.
 
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